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    Can anyone clear this up for me?
    « on: August 27, 2014, 06:49:41 PM »
    Coding newbie here and just started AP Computer Sci. Can somebody please point out the differences between classes, methods, and objects? I still get them mixed up and don't know when or how to use them. I have a general understand but I would like to go further in depth. Yes I know this is a noob question  :o




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    Re: Can anyone clear this up for me?
    « Reply #3 on: August 27, 2014, 07:28:08 PM »
    Just drop out of the class. There is no hope for you, so stop wasting your's and your teacher's time.

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    Re: Can anyone clear this up for me?
    « Reply #4 on: August 27, 2014, 07:46:53 PM »
    Just drop out of the class. There is no hope for you, so stop wasting your's and your teacher's time.

    Ok but when how

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    Re: Can anyone clear this up for me?
    « Reply #5 on: August 27, 2014, 07:58:27 PM »
    Just drop out of the class. There is no hope for you, so stop wasting your's and your teacher's time.
    If you've ever looked around and wondered why there's so many people who complain about how they don't think they can do it, why people harm themselves, why people look down on themselves, its because of people like you. People like you are nothing but destructive and rude, and do nothing to help society. I feel sorry for you.
    what if i want to stick it in? you got a problem with that?

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    Re: Can anyone clear this up for me?
    « Reply #6 on: August 27, 2014, 08:10:33 PM »
    Just drop out of the class. There is no hope for you, so stop wasting your's and your teacher's time.
    If you've ever looked around and wondered why there's so many people who complain about how they don't think they can do it, why people harm themselves, why people look down on themselves, its because of people like you. People like you are nothing but destructive and rude, and do nothing to help society. I feel sorry for you.
    I also look around and see people who think they can do stuff but are absolute incompetent. All I'm saying is that he shouldn't continue a class where he struggle to understand the basic. Because if you struggle now, it will only get worse later when it gets more difficult.

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    Re: Can anyone clear this up for me?
    « Reply #7 on: August 28, 2014, 09:30:34 AM »
    Just drop out of the class. There is no hope for you, so stop wasting your's and your teacher's time.
    If you've ever looked around and wondered why there's so many people who complain about how they don't think they can do it, why people harm themselves, why people look down on themselves, its because of people like you. People like you are nothing but destructive and rude, and do nothing to help society. I feel sorry for you.
    I also look around and see people who think they can do stuff but are absolute incompetent. All I'm saying is that he shouldn't continue a class where he struggle to understand the basic. Because if you struggle now, it will only get worse later when it gets more difficult.

    I thought the idea of school was to learn.. Maybe I'm mistaken. Regardless, he's obviously taking it to learn more about it.

    But at the same time.. Why AP if you don't even know what methods/classes/objects are? Should you be taking an introduction class or something?
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    Re: Can anyone clear this up for me?
    « Reply #8 on: August 28, 2014, 09:51:40 AM »
    Just drop out of the class. There is no hope for you, so stop wasting your's and your teacher's time.
    If you've ever looked around and wondered why there's so many people who complain about how they don't think they can do it, why people harm themselves, why people look down on themselves, its because of people like you. People like you are nothing but destructive and rude, and do nothing to help society. I feel sorry for you.
    I also look around and see people who think they can do stuff but are absolute incompetent. All I'm saying is that he shouldn't continue a class where he struggle to understand the basic. Because if you struggle now, it will only get worse later when it gets more difficult.

    I thought the idea of school was to learn.. Maybe I'm mistaken. Regardless, he's obviously taking it to learn more about it.

    But at the same time.. Why AP if you don't even know what methods/classes/objects are? Should you be taking an introduction class or something?

    I agree with Bowser. He has come here, expecting to be spoonfed. If he actually had the desire to learn anything, he would type something into Google.
    He hasn't put any effort in and he deserves a harsh wake up call.
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    Re: Can anyone clear this up for me?
    « Reply #9 on: August 28, 2014, 03:27:09 PM »
    Just drop out of the class. There is no hope for you, so stop wasting your's and your teacher's time.
    If you've ever looked around and wondered why there's so many people who complain about how they don't think they can do it, why people harm themselves, why people look down on themselves, its because of people like you. People like you are nothing but destructive and rude, and do nothing to help society. I feel sorry for you.
    I also look around and see people who think they can do stuff but are absolute incompetent. All I'm saying is that he shouldn't continue a class where he struggle to understand the basic. Because if you struggle now, it will only get worse later when it gets more difficult.

    I thought the idea of school was to learn.. Maybe I'm mistaken. Regardless, he's obviously taking it to learn more about it.

    But at the same time.. Why AP if you don't even know what methods/classes/objects are? Should you be taking an introduction class or something?

    I agree with Bowser. He has come here, expecting to be spoonfed. If he actually had the desire to learn anything, he would type something into Google.
    He hasn't put any effort in and he deserves a harsh wake up call.

    There's a big difference between asking a question and being "spoonfed". Sounds like you need to stop being a dick and keep making graphs about a runescape community that you've been registered on for 8 years.


    Just drop out of the class. There is no hope for you, so stop wasting your's and your teacher's time.
    If you've ever looked around and wondered why there's so many people who complain about how they don't think they can do it, why people harm themselves, why people look down on themselves, its because of people like you. People like you are nothing but destructive and rude, and do nothing to help society. I feel sorry for you.
    I also look around and see people who think they can do stuff but are absolute incompetent. All I'm saying is that he shouldn't continue a class where he struggle to understand the basic. Because if you struggle now, it will only get worse later when it gets more difficult.

    I thought the idea of school was to learn.. Maybe I'm mistaken. Regardless, he's obviously taking it to learn more about it.

    But at the same time.. Why AP if you don't even know what methods/classes/objects are? Should you be taking an introduction class or something?

    There are many others in my AP class that are having trouble too.

    This looks like this is the last time I ask a question on moparscape.

    edit: i apologize for this outburst of rage
    « Last Edit: August 28, 2014, 03:49:23 PM by asyo4 »

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    Re: Can anyone clear this up for me?
    « Reply #10 on: August 28, 2014, 08:42:02 PM »
    Just drop out of the class. There is no hope for you, so stop wasting your's and your teacher's time.
    If you've ever looked around and wondered why there's so many people who complain about how they don't think they can do it, why people harm themselves, why people look down on themselves, its because of people like you. People like you are nothing but destructive and rude, and do nothing to help society. I feel sorry for you.
    I also look around and see people who think they can do stuff but are absolute incompetent. All I'm saying is that he shouldn't continue a class where he struggle to understand the basic. Because if you struggle now, it will only get worse later when it gets more difficult.

    I thought the idea of school was to learn.. Maybe I'm mistaken. Regardless, he's obviously taking it to learn more about it.

    But at the same time.. Why AP if you don't even know what methods/classes/objects are? Should you be taking an introduction class or something?

    I agree with Bowser. He has come here, expecting to be spoonfed. If he actually had the desire to learn anything, he would type something into Google.
    He hasn't put any effort in and he deserves a harsh wake up call.

    There's a big difference between asking a question and being "spoonfed". Sounds like you need to stop being a dick and keep making graphs about a runescape community that you've been registered on for 8 years.


    Just drop out of the class. There is no hope for you, so stop wasting your's and your teacher's time.
    If you've ever looked around and wondered why there's so many people who complain about how they don't think they can do it, why people harm themselves, why people look down on themselves, its because of people like you. People like you are nothing but destructive and rude, and do nothing to help society. I feel sorry for you.
    I also look around and see people who think they can do stuff but are absolute incompetent. All I'm saying is that he shouldn't continue a class where he struggle to understand the basic. Because if you struggle now, it will only get worse later when it gets more difficult.

    I thought the idea of school was to learn.. Maybe I'm mistaken. Regardless, he's obviously taking it to learn more about it.

    But at the same time.. Why AP if you don't even know what methods/classes/objects are? Should you be taking an introduction class or something?

    There are many others in my AP class that are having trouble too.

    This looks like this is the last time I ask a question on moparscape.

    edit: i apologize for this outburst of rage

    Okay moron, let's take a look.
    So you've asked someone to provide an explanation of a programming concept, right? Or at least provide resources, no? You then thank the sk8er dude for linking you to the documentation Oracle provides. The thing is buddy, all that information can be found from doing a simple Google search. Too much effort, right? Too hard to get of your ass and do some leg work?

    You were asking to be spoonfed because you have made zero effort to look up anything yourself. How can you argue that this isn't the case? You replied to the sk8er dude with, "thank you so much". Obviously the resources that he provided, you deemed as useful. RESOURCES THAT ARE SO EASY TO FIND. Let's play a game you halfwit. Let me do a google search and I'll post the first 10 results. Let's see if they are related. We can call the game, 'Teaching a nitwit'. It'll be fun and you can tell all your other nitwit friends at school that the nerd 'who makes graphs and has been registered for 8 years' included you.

    Let's keep it simple. We don't want to challenge you. I'll google, 'what is a class java'. I can break down how that search works if you like? No? I'll continue.

    http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/concepts/class.html
    OH LOOK I'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE!?!?!?!

     
    Here's a video. That's perfect for you. After all, reading through any tutorials is too much effort. :(:(

    http://javarevisited.blogspot.com.au/2011/10/class-in-java-programming-general.html
    Oh look, something else that addresses your problem. It's almost like these were easy to find?!?!

    http://www.tutorialspoint.com/java/java_object_classes.htm
    I wonder if that's related. Oh, the mystery!

    /questions/9224517/what-are-classes-references-and-objects
    Brain overflow, amirite?!


    Actually, I'll stop here. Obviously you're not looking to be spoonfed, so ten different resources would be too much. Look at silly old me, getting ahead of myself. Do you know why we chose to bash you around a little? For your own god. You see, the people here have actually studied compsci. I know, hard to believe. What's even more amazing is that we have to use Google more times than your mother tried to use a coat hanger during her pregnancy. We understand the value of doing your own research and putting effort in. Life is about putting in the hard work. Life is about trying something with effort and THEN asking for help. You haven't even stated what your current understanding is. It's like you've just thrown up your hands and said, "nuh, someone gives me it". That's not how it works. If you were actually interested in the concepts, you would be frantically googling around because that's sure as hell what I did. That's what a lot of us did.

    Do you think you're being bullied? Is that it? Because I'll tell you now that anyone starting off here a few years ago had it a lot harder than you. How I've responded to your lazy post is actually pretty tame. So now let's move on to your little joke about graphs and eight years. For someone who finds spending time at a community pathetic, it's pretty funny that you've chosen here to beg for help. Help is the wrong word. Sorry. spoonfeeding. If it's so bad being here then why are you still here?

    The graphs were meant as some fun bits of content. It's a forum after all. We can't just have a thousand posts begging for help like yours. We had that for a little while back when we focused around private servers. You would have fit in nicely with everyone. They loved being spoonfed as well.

    Bug off. Idiots like you ruined this community and I hate the type of person that expects everything to be handed to them. As a bonus, I've left all my mistyping and grammatical errors in here because I wouldn't want to spoonfed you English. You're not that type of guy, amirite?

    « Last Edit: August 28, 2014, 08:50:01 PM by Tree »
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    Re: Can anyone clear this up for me?
    « Reply #11 on: August 28, 2014, 08:45:29 PM »
    Okay moron, let's take a look.
    So you've asked someone to provide an explanation of a programming concept, right? Or at least provide resources, no? You then thank the sk8er dude for linking you to the documentation Oracle provides. The thing is buddy, all that information can be found from doing a simple Google search. Too much effort, right? Too hard to get of your ass and do some leg work?


    Okay 9/10 was TL;Dr but I read this but..
    I seriously googled "Java Methods" "Java Objects" Java Classes" to get those links..

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    « Reply #12 on: August 28, 2014, 08:46:24 PM »
    Tree, I just want you to know you're my favorite asshole. You actually put thought and effort into your bashing posts.
    what if i want to stick it in? you got a problem with that?

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    « Reply #13 on: August 28, 2014, 08:50:05 PM »
    Okay moron, let's take a look.
    So you've asked someone to provide an explanation of a programming concept, right? Or at least provide resources, no? You then thank the sk8er dude for linking you to the documentation Oracle provides. The thing is buddy, all that information can be found from doing a simple Google search. Too much effort, right? Too hard to get of your ass and do some leg work?


    Okay 9/10 was TL;Dr but I read this but..
    I seriously googled "Java Methods" "Java Objects" Java Classes" to get those links..
    I'm pretty sure tree just turned it up to 11
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    « Reply #14 on: August 28, 2014, 08:51:46 PM »
    Tree, I just want you to know you're my favorite asshole. You actually put thought and effort into your bashing posts.
    Okay moron, let's take a look.
    So you've asked someone to provide an explanation of a programming concept, right? Or at least provide resources, no? You then thank the sk8er dude for linking you to the documentation Oracle provides. The thing is buddy, all that information can be found from doing a simple Google search. Too much effort, right? Too hard to get of your ass and do some leg work?


    Okay 9/10 was TL;Dr but I read this but..
    I seriously googled "Java Methods" "Java Objects" Java Classes" to get those links..
    I'm pretty sure tree just turned it up to 11

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    Re: Can anyone clear this up for me?
    « Reply #15 on: August 28, 2014, 08:56:56 PM »
    Didnt read a word of that novel but im sure it contained useful information. I'll continue being ignorant and asking to be spoonfed. Thanks for the effort though.

    Actually, just read it. Teach me how to google? I dont have the mental willpower to do use google? Can you google some more moparscape graphs? You must be good at googling man!
    « Last Edit: August 28, 2014, 09:06:50 PM by asyo4 »

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    « Reply #16 on: August 28, 2014, 09:03:04 PM »
    Didnt read a word of that novel but im sure it contained useful information. I'll continue being ignorant and asking to be spoonfed. Thanks for the effort though.

    Next time I'll make a graph for you so it's easier to understand :).
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    « Reply #17 on: August 28, 2014, 09:07:21 PM »
    Didnt read a word of that novel but im sure it contained useful information. I'll continue being ignorant and asking to be spoonfed. Thanks for the effort though.
    here's the thing, asking a question is fine. We've all asked a million and one questions, but you're asking someone to help you, someone to spend their time helping you. They'll only willingly do that if it looks like you put some effort into trying to help yourself. A better way to approach this situation would be for you to have read through the documentation (through a quick google search on your own) then said look guys I've read all of this but I'm still struggling underestanding the differences between x,y and z.
    You're more likely to get an informative response that way ;)
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    « Reply #18 on: August 28, 2014, 09:13:45 PM »
    Didnt read a word of that novel but im sure it contained useful information. I'll continue being ignorant and asking to be spoonfed. Thanks for the effort though.

    Next time I'll make a graph for you so it's easier to understand :).

    Good deal mate. Does google know how to make cool graphs too? I'll wait for you to do it for me though, because I don't know how to use google.


    Didnt read a word of that novel but im sure it contained useful information. I'll continue being ignorant and asking to be spoonfed. Thanks for the effort though.
    here's the thing, asking a question is fine. We've all asked a million and one questions, but you're asking someone to help you, someone to spend their time helping you. They'll only willingly do that if it looks like you put some effort into trying to help yourself. A better way to approach this situation would be for you to have read through the documentation (through a quick google search on your own) then said look guys I've read all of this but I'm still struggling underestanding the differences between x,y and z.
    You're more likely to get an informative response that way ;)

    Yeah I understand. I was hoping somebody would provide a more noob friendly explanation (some websites have one but it isn't really all that clear) I know better now though.

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    « Reply #19 on: August 28, 2014, 09:21:33 PM »
    Yeah I understand. I was hoping somebody would provide a more noob friendly explanation (some websites have one but it isn't really all that clear) I know better now though.
    Then I think you should have worded the question a bit better.
    "I've read on <various sources> about <items> but they weren't clear enough for me. Can someone help me understand <concept> better?"

     

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