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    OfflineDavidi2

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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #40 on: September 07, 2015, 06:06:39 PM »
    Again, I'm not referring to simple similarities. I'm talking about the fact it looks like things were taken directly from the game. You can clearly tell when looking at those screenshots you linked that it's a different art style and game, but the Thornefall models look like they could even just be RS models with more triangles in a lot of places. Having a similar art style is not the same as having the same art. Even in the case that they don't get sued or anything, I still wouldn't consider a game remake like that where alternatives already exist to be considered a safe income source. EDIT - Not really worth arguing tbh, they are already working on the project I assume so just time will tell how far they get and if jagex decides to try anything; i just know if it was me i would try to get away from that art style before trying to market it
    « Last Edit: September 07, 2015, 06:09:48 PM by Davidi2 »
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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #41 on: September 07, 2015, 06:16:04 PM »
    Again, I'm not referring to simple similarities. I'm talking about the fact it looks like things were taken directly from the game. You can clearly tell when looking at those screenshots you linked that it's a different art style and game, but the Thornefall models look like they could even just be RS models with more triangles in a lot of places.
    That comes down to the color, then. Many games use similar topology for characters/environments, they use whatever the industry deems most efficient.

    Nothing can happen because Jagex was unoriginal to begin with there (because of limitations), you can't copyright color. Tons of game boy games look like the sprites could have been from the same sprite sheet but no one complained. Plus the Runescape the world sees today looks nothing like TF, you can only compare it to OSRS and loosely. Assuming TF goes one step further with ambient occlusion/dynamic day/night cycles etc they've already made it unique enough to stand out.
    « Last Edit: September 07, 2015, 06:23:00 PM by Frell »
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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #42 on: September 07, 2015, 07:09:59 PM »
    ironic meme inbound quits rs work to do rs copy work

    tom has a fire burning inside of him u will end up dead sini
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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #43 on: September 07, 2015, 07:12:14 PM »
    i dont think anybody here understands
    > massive company
    > has 2x lawyers than tf has players
    > game is blatently a carbon copy of rs
    > expects not to get sued

    i honestly think not much will come from either blackwake or thornfall in the end (just my opinion, not a fact, if it turns out both succeeds then great but i dont see it happening)
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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #44 on: September 07, 2015, 07:18:05 PM »
    i dont think anybody here understands
    > massive company
    > has 2x lawyers than tf has players
    > game is blatently a carbon copy of rs
    > expects not to get sued

    i honestly think not much will come from either blackwake or thornfall in the end (just my opinion, not a fact, if it turns out both succeeds then great but i dont see it happening)
    blackwake is actually getting a decent amount of funding and lots of free mostly positive advertisement from several renowed youtubers i thought, they stand a much greater chance than some god awful hack of a copy kek
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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #45 on: September 07, 2015, 07:41:13 PM »
    This is a pretty heated debate. I don't think it matters, and no one here is an expert on IP. So take it with a grain of salt.

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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #46 on: September 07, 2015, 07:42:40 PM »
    TF isn't done, everyone is assuming it's a clone right now
    « Last Edit: September 07, 2015, 08:10:47 PM by Frell »

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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #47 on: September 07, 2015, 08:29:01 PM »
    TF is a predictable pick, gross gore proved that a while back.
    « Last Edit: September 07, 2015, 08:30:36 PM by Tom »

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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #48 on: September 07, 2015, 09:26:16 PM »
    TF is a predictable pick, gross gore proved that a while back.
    gets banned too much imo :/
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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #49 on: September 07, 2015, 11:12:20 PM »
    The amount of effort you put into making a good RS server is about as equivalent to the amount of effort you'd put in making a game. Which is better in the long term?
    Well said Sini!
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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #50 on: September 08, 2015, 06:04:06 AM »
    The amount of effort you put into making a good RS server is about as equivalent to the amount of effort you'd put in making a game. Which is better in the long term?
    Well said Sini!
    That is not true at all. Imagine writing a client and server, creating assets for it. The whole lot. At least we have a client and assets. Writing a server alone for rsps does not compete.

    It's not like we're writing enterprise tier servers either.

    Writing your own game is so much better tho at the end result!
    except the client isn't open source. maybe in terms of hours it's still easier to reverse engineer than write your own, but still frustrating as fuck

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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #51 on: September 08, 2015, 02:29:37 PM »
    Nobody in this community cares if it's open source.
    Reverse engineering is down to how competent of a programmer you are.

    I'm only saying making a rsps is easier.
    We already have refactored clients available and if you wanted you could create your own game out of it. (Look at that GTA thingy or Harrys fps).

    But having your own game, completely made yourself will always be more rewarding than recreating a dying game.
    what a dumb post, i dont even... have you read anything in this topic, or even just my post?

    Like the gap between what we can never know and what we need to know is way to great to effectively emulate the new revisions. That ALWAYS was an issue. Do you want to spend a ton of time brute forcing and trying to determine file names from the cache? Do you want to write a CS2 decompiler? Do you want to try and decipher every packet, what it does, why? Do you want to effectively write all the systems to support everything in a simple manner? Do you want to write a persistence layer? Do you want to do the data dumping which takes a lot more time than coming up with your own ideas? Do you want to write a tool chain so you can implement new ideas effectively? Do you want to spend the time trying to efficiently design a way to serve files, host players, login players, keep track of other instances (worlds)?

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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #52 on: September 08, 2015, 03:20:49 PM »
    RIFT and WoW are more similar than WoW and Allods. RIFT practically looks almost exactly like WoW, and no lawsuits have even been thought of. Thornefall and RS will be able to coexist, as Frell has stated. Jagex will probably make empty threats, however.

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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #53 on: September 08, 2015, 05:46:14 PM »
    Nvm
    lolol remember when mopar was a thing

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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #54 on: September 08, 2015, 10:11:15 PM »
    RIFT and WoW are more similar than WoW and Allods. RIFT practically looks almost exactly like WoW, and no lawsuits have even been thought of. Thornefall and RS will be able to coexist, as Frell has stated. Jagex will probably make empty threats, however.
    now I believe they should co-exist because competition makes for a better product, but i doubt it'll be empty threats. It'll come down to can TF have enough money for the lawsuits and fighting the empty threats to also exist on its own
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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #55 on: September 08, 2015, 11:46:52 PM »
    RIFT and WoW are more similar than WoW and Allods. RIFT practically looks almost exactly like WoW, and no lawsuits have even been thought of. Thornefall and RS will be able to coexist, as Frell has stated. Jagex will probably make empty threats, however.
    now I believe they should co-exist because competition makes for a better product, but i doubt it'll be empty threats. It'll come down to can TF have enough money for the lawsuits and fighting the empty threats to also exist on its own
    tf is a game that will never come to fruition and even assuming a washed up project like a shitty runescape clone ever will come to that point is laughable

    gross gore plays a shitty tf tbh =,=
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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #56 on: September 09, 2015, 02:08:04 AM »
    RIFT and WoW are more similar than WoW and Allods. RIFT practically looks almost exactly like WoW, and no lawsuits have even been thought of. Thornefall and RS will be able to coexist, as Frell has stated. Jagex will probably make empty threats, however.
    now I believe they should co-exist because competition makes for a better product, but i doubt it'll be empty threats. It'll come down to can TF have enough money for the lawsuits and fighting the empty threats to also exist on its own
    tf is a game that will never come to fruition and even assuming a washed up project like a shitty runescape clone ever will come to that point is laughable

    gross gore plays a shitty tf tbh =,=
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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #57 on: September 27, 2015, 10:25:16 AM »
    If you guys need help, I've been thinking of getting back into RSPS.
    Currently working with DemonWars on an HD 508!

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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #58 on: September 27, 2015, 02:58:50 PM »
    ur hired lad
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    Re: I'm sorry to announce...
    « Reply #59 on: September 27, 2015, 09:05:16 PM »
    If you guys need help, I've been thinking of getting back into RSPS.
    Its open source..
    lolol remember when mopar was a thing

     

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