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Runescape Classic Server Advertisement / Re: RSCEmulation - The Biggest & Longest Running RSC Private Server Ever - 2 YEARS!« on: March 08, 2011, 03:28:47 PM »
I wrote a long reply but there's really no point in continuing this. Believe what you want, me writing a few paragraphs won't change anything.
You can at least admit that you were wrong about me not playing. Am I willing to deal with not having the subs? Sure, not gonna lose sleep over it. Tbh I'm actually happier to see that you're more active on the forums and in-game and wanting to see what peoples opinions are on updates.
Runescape Classic Server Advertisement / Re: RSCEmulation - The Biggest & Longest Running RSC Private Server Ever - 2 YEARS!« on: March 01, 2011, 02:59:43 AM »
If I could be bothered I'd go through 18 months of IRC/MSN chat logs to find all the messages from Research saying not to worry and so on. If he wanted them it wouldn't have taken him over a year to ask. Instead he saw an opportunity to try and make me look bad and went with it; he doesn't even play and has no interest in the subscription. If I had anything to hide I simply wouldn't have responded to him. If you frequent RSCEmulation's forum you will have seen him post numerous times speaking negatively about the server and flaming me whenever possible, he's only doing this to try and harm myself/RSCEmulation so let him have his fun. The fact is that he donated prior to subscriptions being released, as a good will gesture I offered him a (single) subscription when they were released but as you can see this is the first time it's been mentioned (over a year later) and as I said above he's only doing this to create drama. He knew I would say no, in fact he wanted me to say no and I played right into his hands by doing so.
Please lets at least get our information straight. If you gave two shits about anything but the money being generated from your server you could take a quick look and see that my IP is logged in quite frequently and I play a lot. Our IRC chat logs prove that you knew what you said way back then so I don't see why you'd need to go through logs to find what you said? Also, despite the fact that I can't prove it I was told that when a price was figured out for subs I would be given as many as $40 would pay for, not one. Like I've said before people can believe who they want but I haven't come here to start a flame war, just to have people see that you truly don't give a fudge about anything but the money.
Edit: As for making you look bad, yeah that is obviously what I'm trying to do as you're now jewing me out of subs which I was told I'd be given. However, I don't need to succeed in making you look bad because with the way things are going you'll give plenty of other people the same opportunity.
By the way, reading the second part of your post not necessarily directed towards me has prompted this response. You wouldn't get near the amount of shit you do now if you didn't let so many people down. Yeah you have the longest running most popular RSC private server out there(because of player count), great! But you've let it slip so far from where you started aside from the increase in players, I'm talking about the dedication. I remember when RSCE was first released and you said ALL of the money donated would go towards the server and you wouldn't profit from it. Obviously with the amount of money subs generate now its acceptable that you would make money as this does (or did) take up your time. The reason people hate you is because now that you make the money and have the people who will sit there and pay you no matter what happens with the server you simply don't give a fudge about it. How long were people not getting their subs for yet I'm sure there was no delay in their payment to you? How many polls have happened that have sat there with stacked results but changes haven't been implemented? It takes people forever to reach you, you don't appreciate those who got the server to where they are, and its all about the money which has given you ample opportunity to "have a life". If you recall you used to sit here and engage in an internet war with people here quite often.
Runescape Classic Server Advertisement / Re: RSCEmulation - The Biggest & Longest Running RSC Private Server Ever - 2 YEARS!« on: February 28, 2011, 09:41:44 AM »
Luke has a been a runt since day one, Everyone with the smallest of brains should know that.Problably not since you don't have a success server.
Incase anyone doesn't know me, I'm Research a long time player of RSCE and I've got a story for you all. Back when RSCE started I was one of a few players who found out about it and started playing there because at the time pp2p was going to shit and I was looking for a new server. Since this was the beginning Luke was looking for money for a dedicated server and obviously didn't have subs working yet, as I really wanted to see this server succeed I donated $40 to him with promise of being reimbursed with $40 worth of subs when the subscription system was released. It took a long time however and by the time it was released I had quit RSCE for awhile, so earlier today I talked to Luke about getting those subs for the money I'd donated and this was his response.
<research> you didn't get my message yesterday?
[09:23] <research> im not in line for those that just paid for them recently
[09:23] <Kryptix> i read it, it's not happening though
[09:23] <research> lol?
[09:24] <research> It's not like I have msn logs to prove it but you know what you said.
[09:24] <Kryptix> yeah and you've had a year and a half to do it and haven't
[09:24] <research> I have no clue what difference that makes.
[09:24] <research> I quit for a long time.
[09:24] <research> And subs didn't come out for awhile after I'd donated if you remember
[09:25] <research> it's not like the prices changed or the amount of money i'd donated
[09:26] <research> im not even askin for an even 50, just whatever gets closest to in it subs
[09:26] <research> without goin over
[09:26] <Kryptix> by giving someone X amount of subs means that it's X less that will be bought that month
[09:26] <Kryptix> so it indirectly affects it
[09:26] <research> how so?
[09:26] <research> i don't buy subs anyway
[09:27] <research> and im not selling them
[09:27] <research> well a few anyway
[09:27] <research> regardless of that fact I'm sure your well enough off this month
[09:27] <research> and if i sold 5 subs I doubt that $35 would make an impact on your life
[09:29] <research> w/e its obviously your decision but you have no real legitimate reason not to give me them
[09:30] <research> and if you'd given them to me when subs came out x amount less would've been bought that month, so now you're just making excuses
[09:30] <research> and im sure you needed the money worse for the server back then
[09:30] <Kryptix> yep
[09:30] <Kryptix> and yep
[09:31] <research> fair enough, didn't assume you
[09:31] <research> you'd come through anyway
[09:31] <research> thought id give it a shot though
(I made the mistake of thinking I'd donated $50 when really it was $40 as this next pic will prove)
Anyway, just hoping people see this and learn of what a piece of shit Luke truly has become after making so much money off this server.
Edit: Yes I'm well aware that I could have edited those logs and even the picture but I didn't. I have nothing to gain from doing that, I only hope people will see what Luke does (this is nowhere close to the tip of the iceberg) and stop giving him money.
its because a big group of people bot there privately and talk big lol , i never played there but i know things
This - the fact that I've played there and know who they are, etc..
i honestly want to stab everyone from this server..they all turned into little faggot fan boys.
Oh and one thing Research. Since you left we've added lots of filtered words both to Global Chat and normal chat that we didn't have before.
That's good to hear Luke, that was a pretty simple fix to a big problem.
Also gawdz, the incident malikz and I are referring to was not a "hey whats good nig?" kind of thing, it was blatant racism directed towards someone.
Honestly this makes me think you never looked at the screenshots, if I do recall one of the lines was "you fudgeing retarded African" or something close, I was basically posting again because gawdz stated it wasn't a rule when your forums show clear as day that it is. Funny thing is I also warned them I was taking screenshots and going to post if they continued to spam racism, what did they do? The other 4 screenies can answer that question.I honestly don't know what to say. I've been a member of several private servers and their language and overall community behaviour has always be worst than RSCEmulation. I don't know why we're being pin-pointed, whatever you've seen on RSCEmulation you will see on any private server you play. We do our best to keep it under control but it's not always easy. How do you know the player you reported didn't get temporarily muted? I deal with hundreds of mutes, jail sentences and bans every-single-day so I honestly can't remember.
If you looked at my screenies you'd know it wasn't done in global. And again, does it matter if the person being punished doesn't like their punishment? Would you rather have the person who was abused by the person breaking the rules unhappy, or the rulebreaker unhappy? It's a very simple answer.
Of course every RSC P server community has its ups and downs and people will flame, my issue is that you guys are more likely to mute someone for the whole RSC 2005 joke then you are to mute someone who is being racist. How do I know they weren't punished? I never would've heard the end of it, they all knew I reported them and they would've cried to me had I gotten them punished just judging by the way they acted in-game so yeah, I'm pretty sure nothing was done.
As you know from reading my other 3 essays this is just one of the issues I have with the way you run your server so I'd prefer to be done with arguing about it and giving you free bumps as I'm not trying to help you gain player count.
It's a difficult rule. If someone is joking around and says "lol u nig", what are you supposed to do? If you banned and muted for every single offence there wouldn't be many people on ANY server.
Honestly this makes me think you never looked at the screenshots, if I do recall one of the lines was "you fudgeing retarded African" or something close, I was basically posting again because gawdz stated it wasn't a rule when your forums show clear as day that it is. Funny thing is I also warned them I was taking screenshots and going to post if they continued to spam racism, what did they do? The other 4 screenies can answer that question.
Also you aren't enforcing rules to please people Luke, you are enforcing them because they are the rules that EVERYONE must abide by. Just because the people who broke the rules don't like them or are going to complain about it when they break them doesn't mean you should second guess punishing them.
Racism isnt against the rules but is shunned upon and if severe racism occurs after asking them to calm down is when we take act.
8. No Overly-Abusive or Racist Remarks
Many people find racist jokes/remarks and abusive religious jokes/remarks to be funny or acceptable. This community is built and will grow on the foundation that we are respectful and accepting of every player, regardless of their background. That is why there will be absolutely no racist or overly-abusive remarks allowed. Any of these remarks made towards another player will result in a temporary mute. If it is between two people flaming each other and both are being abusive neither person will be favored, you will both be muted. If you are a repeat offender and have been muted on several occasions already it may lead to a ban. Simply put these overly-abusive comments hurt and will not be taken lightly on RSCEmulation.
What was that gawdz? Also you clearly didn't read my post as it is completely acceptable that you cannot see everything that goes on in chat, but when I post 5 screenshots of racism on the forums, I'm pretty sure its not hard to find.
My quoting skills fail horribly, R is me L is luke
R: I don't want to be personally pleased as a player Luke, I want you to be unbiased as an admin. Also I'm prepared to post screenshots of my inability to access your game and forums as its really funny that as soon as I saw you online on mopar I was able to access your forums, interesting coincidence. I seriously almost fell on the floor laughing as I read your post and noticed I was unbanned. My ISP takes time to update? Funny how earlier today prior to me being unable to access your forums and game I was ABLE to get on the forums AFTER you switched the server seeing as I read the post under News & Announcements about Being on the New Server.
L: Well, on my familys life Research, you were NOT banned. As I said in my post, if SecurePort flagged you it could take an hour for it to expire. Staminus don't reveal much about SecurePort so I'm not entirely sure how it works, but I have a rough idea. Believe me, if I ban someone I have a good reason for doing so.
R: Luke, you aren't a dumb guy, and I trust you don't take me for one. Why would you visibly ban me with no good reason? Its easy enough to go and IP me through the system so I still can't play, I'm well aware that my accounts function but if I can't get on your website or game I doubt that matters. You apparently ignored the part of my post where I stated that I was able to access the forums after your server change but then a few hours later, and for more than an hour, up until you read my post on mopar incidentally I wasn't able to access the forums or server.
R: Ah about your reasoning for having secureport possibly flag me for something, I have spam refreshed a topic on RSCE before and I was banned from accessing the site....... for 30 seconds. Today I did nothing of the sort and out of the blue I was unable to access the site or game.
That wasn't SecurePort. The HTTP block was a Apache mod that we removed when we purchased SecurePort.
L: I honestly don't know why you weren't able to access the IP address, but you were not manually banned. Do you really think I'd block your IP address but leave your forum account as well as your in-game characters active and un-banned? We've had a few people having DNS issues.
R: Please explain to me how I was unbanned if you claim I was "never banned". Again refer to my above post for your response on the DNS issues.
R: I was not picked the same way your new staff were, I played for a least 2 weeks and I was on EVERY SINGLE DAY for many hours during the day, in fact re-reading the forums after I was picked about your picking new staff topic I stumbled upon the fact that the main reason I was picked was my ability to be extremely active. You needed me and I was the most qualified person at the time, plenty of qualified people have apped since then and yet you pick the people you knew from other servers who as far as I know, never apped at all. Do they even have accounts they play on?
L: I'm not sure who exactly you're talking about, but if you read the above post you'll find a user complaining that I moderate people I don't actually know. The only person who's a moderator that I knew before RSCEmulation is Mod Tina. She moved over to RSCEmulation bringing 20+ friends with her, showed a lot of dedication and like yourself, was extremely active. It made sense, and I have no regrets -- she's a fantastic moderator. I've just looked through the staff list and there's NO-ONE on there (except Mod Tina) that I knew before RSCEmulation. Not even our new administrator, Zilent.
R: By admitting that you didn't know them prior to RSCE there is absolutely no reason you should've modded any of them, stating this would mean you have clearly no experience with that person whatsoever and you're giving them some type of power over your server, I will give you the fact that none of them have abused or done a bad job but it was still the wrong way to pick mods.
R: About me asking for my mod powers back, I never did so seriously. I was jokingly asking for mod the entire time up until the one night I told you that I was going to quit again, I didn't give you all of the reasons but you raged at me because you thought I'd quit due to losing 3m in a stake to matt, talked on about how you were so happy that you chose not to give me mod back.
L: That's very easy to say now, but I distinctly remember you asking me more than once. You ever changed your Ventrilo comment to "Luke mode me!" (or something along those lines). I have no-idea why you're denying it now... It's nothing bad. You said yourself the only reason you decided to post this is because you thought you were banned. If you did read through the thread I posted regarding the new server you would have seen that I too had DNS issues and I couldn't get in-game for a few hours after the switch.
R: I'm not saying that now because I'm angry, I'm saying it because it was the truth. If you had noticed what I did towards the end of my playing on RSCE I was not a very helpful person and in fact I enjoyed getting a rise out of people in ::say. I will admit that during the day before I had quit was the ONE time I was serious about getting mod back, all the others were actually jokes.
R: I never stated you were in this for the money, I stated that you broke a rule that YOU made and were so adamant on keeping upheld as far as I was aware.
L: ...and I haven't. As I said, I turn down sooo many offers every-single-day. He didn't expect anything in return what-so-ever, and it was actually a few days later I offered him the Party Hat as it suddenly ticked that without him RSCEmulation probably wouldn't even be online. You should know this all too well. You donated 40$, did you get any items in return? No. I'd love to reward players who donate but unfortunately we've all seen how economies turn out when that happens which is why I've taken a different approach.
R: It makes no sense to give him a hat when he agreed to donate for nothing other than a subscription. I find it extremely hard to believe that after not wanting to ruin the economy whatsoever AFTER he donated to you, you CHOSE to give him a hat.
R: Again, I am not in the slightest suprised that you did this, anything to defend yourself and keep your image untarnished in the eyes of your players who you so desperately do not want to lose.
L: I've got nothing to hide, I've just explained everything I can. Of course I don't want to loose players, I've put a LOT of time, effort and money into this project and I don't want to let the players down. A server without players isn't much fun at all.[/quote]
R: This is pretty much over and done with people can choose who they want to believe.
R: And finally, why did you fail to address the fact that you took down Matts server on the first night it was up, and the whole bowtech situation?
L: Did you read my post? I said I could defend myself all night but I said I'd reply to a few points. Anyway, originally when the exploit came to light (to Matt anyway), Vivek showed me the screenshot and that's the first I knew of iKeptAdvertisingThisSiteSoNowItsCensored being took down. It came to my attention pretty quickly who was doing this, and as I've been IP banned from the start of iKeptAdvertisingThisSiteSoNowItsCensored I haven't been able to keep up with Matt's progress. I have to admit, I found it all pretty humorous when people were pasting me posts that Matt had written, but I'm certainly not the one taking it down.
Regarding Bowtech, a few people have spoken to me about him but they have no proof. It's merely being suspicious of him. I'm not going to ban someone because you think he's autoing. We're very close to releasing our new client which will include lots of new detection methods, including the ability to remotely lock a players keyboard and mouse to see if they're actually controlling the character them self. We will also be able to check the players internal IP, as well as their MAC address so we can be 100% positive that they're actually the same person. If I can't prove that someone is breaking a rule I won't ban them, no matter how many people moan and complain. We're doing our best to detect rule breakers and ban many every-single-day.
R: This is the reason I posted again and the reason that I know you'll do anything to keep your reputation, I wish to god I had saved the MSN logs of you admitting to me that you were the one bringing p2p down because now I regret not having the proof.
As for the whole bowtech issue, yeah I want him banned for autoing but was I asking you to look into it because I personally wanted him banned? No. Shark told me he caught him autoing twice, this wasn't people being suspicious this was him being caught BY A MOD. He was flagged and banned by nut for being on a modified client and you told me he showed you what caused that to happen but you never went any further into it. He is now unbanned and happily playing, I'd say 3 times was enough to not allow him to come back with no consequences but a 2 hour temp ban.
R: Anyways Luke if you're going to try and defend yourself this time I'll just post the pics and be done with it, I don't want to argue I just want people to see that you're turning out to be no better of an admin then Matt previously was.
L: Who wouldn't defend their self? You know full well I run RSCEmulation well, hence why you've been one of our longest players. You've obviously got upset about a few things but that will happen on any server, believe me on that one. I do my utmost to keep everyone happy whilst still enforcing rules. It's not easy.
R: I guess you would defend yourself seeing as its just my word vs. yours, however, many of the RSCE players know me very well and should believe that I have no reason to make any of this up and I'm only posting it because it needs to be said.
R: And again, I never wanted to become involved in any of this RSC P server drama but seeing you act so victimized and appalled by accusations of bringing Matt's server down and then finally me being IP'd just pushed me over the edge.
L: As I said, I haven't banned you. I didn't ban you. No-one has banned you. If you had taken the time to proxy you would have seen that your account was still perfectly accessible, un-touched and un-banned.
R: Again, refer to my above post. Why ban me with no good reason and make yourself look like you're running this server with your emotions for banning me because I sided with Matt? You could easily just IP me and before I even read your post I was chatting with Matt on MSN and I told him exactly what you'd say, guess what? I was right. As for me now being able to access the site, hell I'd do the same if I was you, I wouldn't want people looking at me in such a negative light for banning one of my previously most dedicated players for having an opinion that I didn't like.
R: Edit Again: I'm suprised I forgot to mention the 5 screenshots of people being racist in mage bank (which the same people have also done in say) in which despite them disobeying the CLEARLY LAYED OUT RULES nothing was done.
L: Maybe you don't notice things being done, but if a moderator sees anything overly abusive or racist they will receive a temporarily Global Chat mute. If it continues they will have the privilege taken away completely. It's not easy monitoring 100-190 online players at once, but I genuinely try my best and I genuinely want the best for the server and its players.
R: They had done it in global before and continued to be able to chat. Of course it isn't easy to monitor this many people, care to know what is? Reading my Report Players post on the forums which you are on constantly with 5 screenshots showing them all being racist.
That was fun.
including the ability to remotely lock a players keyboard and mouse to see if they're actually controlling the character them self
Pretty sure this isn't legal.
I don't want to be personally pleased as a player Luke, I want you to be unbiased as an admin. Also I'm prepared to post screenshots of my inability to access your game and forums as its really funny that as soon as I saw you online on mopar I was able to access your forums, interesting coincidence. I seriously almost fell on the floor laughing as I read your post and noticed I was unbanned. My ISP takes time to update? Funny how earlier today prior to me being unable to access your forums and game I was ABLE to get on the forums AFTER you switched the server seeing as I read the post under News & Announcements about Being on the New Server.
Ah about your reasoning for having secureport possibly flag me for something, I have spam refreshed a topic on RSCE before and I was banned from accessing the site....... for 30 seconds. Today I did nothing of the sort and out of the blue I was unable to access the site or game.
I was not picked the same way your new staff were, I played for a least 2 weeks and I was on EVERY SINGLE DAY for many hours during the day, in fact re-reading the forums after I was picked about your picking new staff topic I stumbled upon the fact that the main reason I was picked was my ability to be extremely active. You needed me and I was the most qualified person at the time, plenty of qualified people have apped since then and yet you pick the people you knew from other servers who as far as I know, never apped at all. Do they even have accounts they play on?
About me asking for my mod powers back, I never did so seriously. I was jokingly asking for mod the entire time up until the one night I told you that I was going to quit again, I didn't give you all of the reasons but you raged at me because you thought I'd quit due to losing 3m in a stake to matt, talked on about how you were so happy that you chose not to give me mod back.
I never stated you were in this for the money, I stated that you broke a rule that YOU made and were so adamant on keeping upheld as far as I was aware.
Again, I am not in the slightest suprised that you did this, anything to defend yourself and keep your image untarnished in the eyes of your players who you so desperately do not want to lose.
And finally, why did you fail to address the fact that you took down Matts server on the first night it was up, and the whole bowtech situation?
Anyways Luke if you're going to try and defend yourself this time I'll just post the pics and be done with it, I don't want to argue I just want people to see that you're turning out to be no better of an admin then Matt previously was.
And again, I never wanted to become involved in any of this RSC P server drama but seeing you act so victimized and appalled by accusations of bringing Matt's server down and then finally me being IP'd just pushed me over the edge.
Edit Again: I'm suprised I forgot to mention the 5 screenshots of people being racist in mage bank (which the same people have also done in say) in which despite them disobeying the CLEARLY LAYED OUT RULES nothing was done.
Fun server for those who want to get to the point and start pkn. +++
XP rates are lower than other servers, easier to pk on other servers tbh.
The_AFKer I guess you missed the entire point of my post which is that Luke banned me, a previously dedicated player and donator. Luke constantly attacks and belittles Matt for what he did in his past when in truth, he is no better. Luke is on the offensive and trying to keep his players and have his server continue growing, the numbers went to his head and he just figures if I IP ban this guy with an opinion that I don't like I still have 150 more players willing to log on so who the fudge is he?
Just so everyone who plays RSCE is aware, I, a long time player of RSCE (Research) had been there since day 2 or 3. I was the first person to donate to the server $40 with the promise of a subscription and nothing else, I truly wanted to see this server succeed. Over time as the server grew I had noticed that Luke paid less and less attention to those who were there from the beginning and he would ignore me most of the time on MSN unless he needed my help and he did help me with a few things. Also one other person I know of who donated X Rip X, received a pink party hat for a $120 donation, after Luke had stated that there would be absolutely no donations for items.
As time went on even further I started noticing new people getting mod, people I had never heard of and who hadn't played RSCE for more than a week. People began to question these new mods and the reasons they got positions, I was one of them. Allegedly Luke knew them from RSC or other servers and saw them fit to be admin, maybe they had good qualities but they have proven no dedication to RSCE. The new mods seem to be working out fine though and I harbor no ill-will towards them.
A friend of mine decided to quit RSCE one day because he wanted to be rid of all rsc P servers, in truth I had wanted this for a long time and chose to quit with him. Another factor which aided in my choice to quit was the fact that a player on RSCE who is a known botter from other servers was unbanned by Luke after being banned by a mod for being on a modified client. I guess one flag isn't enough to be banned so I decided to investigate further, I then learned that this player had been caught autoing twice before (I wasn't informed of the punishment), you'd think 3 times is enough for a ban. Luke refused to give me any details about this when I was genuinely trying to help him and possibly brainstorm ways this player could have bypassed the client check. This player is still currently unbanned and I can think of no legitimate reason why.
Around the same time I had quit RSCE Pp2p opened up again. I had my doubts about Matt and what he had done in his days as admin with the old p2p but I decided to give him a second chance. Luke messaged me on msn when I was on p2p on its opening day letting me know that he knew of an exploit in p2ps code that allowed him to bring the server down (choose to believe me or not, I didn't save the msn chatlogs). He asked me to log online multiple times and let him know when it went down, I played along. As days went by I didn't chat much with Luke nor log on RSCE as I was either busy IRL or playing p2p. I began browsing p2ps advertisement thread here for shits and giggles when I came across Matt accusing Luke of ddosing or bringing down his server. I also saw Luke constantly defend himself and say that Matt was being childish in accusing him and it was over some grudge that he has. I tried to keep my mouth shut but eventually got sick of it and I let Matt know that Luke was the one who had brought his server down that day, again he asked me to show him logs but I didn't think about copy/pasting at the time (I'm on windows messenger).
A few days ago I saw Luke attack Matt and accuse him of offering items/staff positions to people who were willing to DDoS RSCE (). He continuously tried to prove that Matt had initiated the conversation with the two members of RSCE asking them to ddos and offering them rewards on p2p if they did so. Luke also admitted in his post that he orchestrated at least one of the events with a member approaching Matt and asking for items if they were to ddos RSCE, for this I found Luke in the wrong and I posted my thoughts about what he had done.
A reason I sided with Matt is because Luke is constantly attacking him while Matt is just doing his best to run his own server and stay out of other peoples' business.
Why am I posting all this? Today I found out I Was IP banned from RSCE, me, a long-time member who had done nothing but contribute to the community (maybe argue a bit on the forums). So why did Luke IP ban me? He won't respond to me but my guess is this, he doesn't like that fact that I picked p2p over his server and that I am siding with Matt in this war. I have never autoed, I have never been jailed for flaming or any of the likes, I was a dedicated member of the server up until my quitting.
I just want everyone to know that if you believe Luke is a great admin and "far better then Matt" or even others read my post and please reconsider.
TL;DR Luke IP banned me for siding with Matt on his moparscape topic.
RSC came out in 2005, lol jk all try RSCE